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gift of CGA

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Donor (father) wants to establish CGA for son (age 64) and daughter-in-law (age 60). [1] Are there gift tax implications to faher/donor? [2] I assume son and wife will receive annual 1099-R and only claim the ordinary income part of payments on their taxes?? [3] Are there any other differences from standard CGA?
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#14 by Sue Woodard    

CGA for son

Yes, there are gift tax implications for the projected lifetime income of the two annuitants, which is reportable the year the CGA is established, (minus the exclusion for that year).

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#13 by Sherman Cohn    

Gift of CGA

What is a CGA? Remember, you are not writing just for those who went through the initiate rite!

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#12 by Staci Bush    

Gift of CGA

Ditto Sherman - what is a CGA?

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#11 by Chuck Simpson    

CGA = chartiable gift

CGA = chartiable gift annuity

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#10 by arthur page    

cga

if the donor retains the right to revoke the son's interest each yearly payment should qualifiy for the annual exclusion. This should shelter the annuity payment to the son from being a taxable gift to the extent it is under the annual exclusion amount.

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#9 by Scott Drogs    

Gift of CGA

Using the right to revoke can include the remaining income interest in dad's estate at his passing.

Also, if the father gives appreciated securities (i.e. stocks) in exchange for the charitable gift annuity (CGA), then he will have to recognize a portion of the gain in the year of the gift. Had he been the annuitant, then he could have recognized the gain over his life expectancy.

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#8 by Richard Davis    

DCGA

Also, if establishing a DCGA (deferred charitable gift annuity where the first payment is scheduled more than one year from the gift date) then any capital gain on assets given would be immediately taxable to the donor, and the annual gift tax exclusion would not apply. Any size gift would have to be reported as a taxable gift (Form 709), although there would not be any tax liability unless the total of this gift (present value) and any prior taxable gifts exceed $1,000,000 (the gift amount sheltered by the gift tax credit).

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#7 by Philip Rovner    

CGA to son

The reciprocal of the present value to the charity is taxable as a gift to the Donor. This amount is easliy obtained from the illustration software.

Importanly, if the donor funds this CGA with Capital Gain property (long term) the donor then realizes the full capital gain in the year of the gift. The subsequent taxable portion of the CGA to the son is taxable to the son as ordinary income.

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#6 by Susan Smith    

What is a CGA

A Charitable Gift Annuity (CGA) is an excellent option for an individual (up to two individuals per agreement...usually husband and wife) to give to a charity and still have use of the funds. He gets an immediate deduction (partial) and an agreement for set dollar payments for the rest of his life from the charity. At the end of the life of the annuitant(s), the charity has full use of the funds. Annuity payments are typically calculated using the recommended rates from the American Council on Gift Annuities and are dependent upon age. Payments may be deferred. Part of the payments may be taxed at normal income tax rate, part may be tax free, and part, if using highly appreciated assets, may be taxed at the capital gains rate. This is a great way for older clients to give low yielding long term capital gains stock in exchange for payments that will not change. Some Foundations issuing CGA's allow the individual to name OTHER CHARITIES to receive the charitable portion.

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#5 by Leslie Cook    

cgas

I work for a retirement community and cgas seem like a great alternative to CDs and other currently low yielding investments. I find that the people who give cgas do so for the charitable aspect, which is fine, but I would like to help other seniors to realize that the rate of return is a good deal for them, too. Due to current market, many people are hesitant to make any changes in their investments. Any ideas on how to sell more annuities in the current market?

Thanks

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#4 by M Maginniss    

Charitable Gift Annuities for Seniors

Yes, a CGA could make sense for some seniors. However, a true cost comparison requires you compare a CGA with the purchase of a private annuity. As you will see, the income stream will be lower under the CGA. That is because the charity is a partner in this transaction, and is required to receive a minimum payout after the last death (or term if a fixed number of years). This payout requirement effectively reduces the portion of the annuity income stream available to the senior.

As a result, the donor to a CGA should really have a charitable intent; in this case, it can be an excellent choice. Otherwise, a private annuity is likely the better choice from strictly a cash flow perspective. Also, unlike CDs and other assets in an investment portfolio, the annuity terminates at the last death (or term), and the funds are not available for leaving a legacy. If this is an important consideration for the senior, the annuity option is less appealing.

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#3 by Jamie Hogan    

CGA to son

I don't understand why transferring L/T C/G property to a CGA for the son would cause dad to recognize the C/G upon transfer. If dad transfers stock directly to son the holding period and cost basis transfers with it. If a CGA is used it seems that the son would recognize gain as payments are received. The treatment here seems inconsistent. Any thoughts?

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#1 by Thomas Davis    

Charitable Gift Annuity

Donor has asked Community Foundation if their Charitable Gift Annuity Program allows the donor to recommend a future change of the named charitable beneficiary. Community Foundations have variance power, but is this permissable with Charitable Gift Annuity legal requirements? Thomas H. Davis, Jr.